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trial at Shopify.com slash setup. Welcome to political beatdown. I'm Ben Myselish, joined by Michael

Cohen. Where do we begin? A new Pope elected, Pope Leo the 14th, the first American Pope, and we've been digging

up some of the prior post when he was Cardinal Prevost over in Chicago, although he spent most

of his time in Peru as a Cardinal. And he was someone who was very critical of Donald Trump and J.D. Vance.

And is this kind of the Mark Carney effect? Is this like what we're seeing in Australia? Did they

pick somebody seeing the United States in decline to kind of make a statement, you know, because someone in a

bishop and Donald Trump's like spiritual advisor counsel had previously been on the record as saying,

you know, there'll never be an American pope. And when there is, it signals the decline of

America. That's actually the- Talk don't know about forced data, right?

So you have that data point, but it seems like by all accounts, you know, an incredible

person, you know, whether you're religious or not religious, it's still, you know, I'm not

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