Policing Under Trump, the "Ferguson Effect," and More
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🗓️ 31 May 2017
⏱️ 25 minutes
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Summary
Heather Mac Donald joins Brian Anderson to discuss the state of policing today, the "Ferguson Effect," former FBI director James Comey's defense of proactive policing, and the recent protests against conservative speakers on college campuses.
Since the fatal shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri on August 9, 2014, public discussion about police and the criminal justice system has reached a fever pitch: activists claim that policing is inherently racist and discriminatory, while supporters say that public pressure has caused officers to disengage from proactive policing.
President Trump's promise to restore "law and order" in American cities upset many progressives, but with violent crime on the rise in cities across the country since 2014, Trump was right to raise the issue.
Read Heather's piece in the Spring 2017 issue of City Journal, "How Trump Can Help the Cops."
Heather Mac Donald is the Thomas W. Smith Fellow at the Manhattan Institute and a contributing editor of City Journal. She is a recipient of the 2005 Bradley Prize. Mac Donald's work at City Journal has covered a range of topics including higher education, immigration, policing, homelessness and homeless advocacy, criminal-justice reform, and race relations. Her writing has appeared in the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post, the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, The New Republic, and The New Criterion. Mac Donald's newest book, The War on Cops (2016), warns that raced-based attacks on the criminal-justice system are eroding the authority of law and putting lives at risk.
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| 0:00.0 | Since the fatal shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri in August 2014, there's been |
| 0:06.0 | an ongoing public debate about the American criminal justice system. Critics, including |
| 0:10.8 | former President Barack Obama and his Justice Department, the activists of Black Lives |
| 0:15.9 | Matter, and many in the elite press, charged the policing is shot through with racism, specifically |
| 0:23.3 | that young blacks, young black males in particular are routinely being harassed, harmed, |
| 0:28.7 | and even killed by the police with near impunity, and as a corollary that blacks are unjustly |
| 0:35.1 | being imprisoned at rates disproportionate to their numbers. |
| 0:39.3 | President Donald Trump's promise to restore law and order in American cities |
| 0:43.2 | was a centerpiece of his campaign last year, |
| 0:46.3 | and many of his opponents said he was exaggerating the safety problem in the inner city |
| 0:51.0 | and thereby race-baiting and demonizing minorities. But with an undeniable |
| 0:56.2 | increase in homicides and shootings in cities across the country since 2014, it seems that Trump |
| 1:02.8 | was right to raise the issue. The anti-police narrative, our guest Heather McDonald has argued, |
| 1:08.7 | has led officers in high-crime areas to start to |
| 1:12.5 | disengage from proactive policing, leading to more violent crime. That phenomenon has come to be |
| 1:18.9 | called the Ferguson effect, a term Heather popularized with a much-discussed Wall Street Journal |
| 1:24.0 | editorial. We'll talk with Heather about the state of policing, the facts about |
| 1:28.8 | crime, James Comey, and her recent encounters with campus protesters that put her in national |
| 1:35.3 | headlines. Hello, I'm City Journal editor Brian Anderson. |
| 1:47.0 | Thanks for joining us for the Ten Blocks podcast featuring urban policy and cultural commentary |
| 1:52.0 | with City Journal editors, contributors, and special guests. |
| 1:59.0 | Welcome back to Ten Blocks. I'm your host, Brian Anderson. Joining us on the show today is Heather McDonald. She's a long-time contributing editor of City Journal, the Thomas Smith Fellow at the Manhattan Institute, and author of The New York Times bestseller, The War on Cops, which will be out in an updated paperback edition this fall. |
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