This is things police see.

First and accounts with your host, Steve Gold.

Welcome to the podcast interviews, active, retired police officers about their most intense, bizarre, and sometimes humorous moments on the Jorb.

I am Steve Gould.

I am old gingerface.

Thank you for being here, everybody.

Appreciate you. Appreciate you finding Appreciate you. Appreciate you.

Binge listening to the podcast. That's always good. So thank you. Excuse my voice. It's a little bit,

it's a little rough. I've had a cold for about a week. Typically how it goes in my house is kids will get

sick and my wife will get sick. And then at the very end, if at all is kids will get sick and my wife will get sick and then at the very end

if at all i will get sick so that's kind of where i where i'm at i worked i went to work i worked

through it but um didn't get a lot of sleep so it's kind of it's kind of lingering so sorry for the

kind of stuffy voice but i'm happy to be with you. I'm excited for this guest.

He's got quite the police career, and he's also an author.

He did 35 years in law enforcement between Berkeley PD, Baldwin Park, Farmington, New Mexico,

and then back up into the Bay Area where he retired as a chief.

35 years in law enforcement.

Four departments, as I said, in two states,

worked every rank in assignment from patrol officer to chief of police.

Worked 10 years as a vice president of corporate security for NBC Universal in Los Angeles.

Also was director of security for the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art.

Currently consults with Cook and Associates,

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