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What up, what up? Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Michael Steel Podcast. Yes, I'm Michael

Steel. You know, you're loved, right? Exactly. I'm so glad you guys could be with us for

another great conversation. A lot going on. Since last week's spoke, we've had an impeachment

trial and a decision there. We've had Donald Trump sort of pop his head up a little bit

and spew all kinds of venom on Mitch McConnell. We may get into that. It's so yesterday.

But today, I wanted to sort of get into a different frame of reference for us because as I was

talking about our guests before we started, there were a lot of Marines on the wall for our

democracy. Rosa Brooks was one of them. I think she will have a lot of insights for us about

what that was like. But there's some other things that Ms. Brooks has done that's actually

equally more exciting and interesting. She is a law professor at Georgetown University,

my grandmother. Yay. Oh, yes. And founder of Georgetown's innovative policing program,

hand, hand, hand, you know, where we're going, right? From 2016 to 2020, she served as a reserve

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