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Policing-for-Profit

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate Podcasts

News, News Commentary, Daily News

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 25 January 2022

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Over the last few years, a sleepy southern town has seen its arrest rate grow more than 1100%. It’s not because of a spike in crime in Brookside, Alabama; instead, the town’s law enforcement has adopted a policing-for-profit model that treats citizens as revenue generators and cracks down on them accordingly. In turn, some residents enter debt spirals as the town’s police force rakes in more cash, with no signs of stopping anytime soon. Guest: John Archibald, columnist for AL.com and the Birmingham News. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Podcast production by Mary Wilson, Danielle Hewitt, Elena Schwartz, and Carmel Delshad. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I think that the holidays feel like frozen noses. I love walking with the dog for long periods of time.

0:10.0

Hopefully it's snowing and you've got to wrap up warm. So I think a frozen nose is a sweaty armpit

0:15.0

because your wrapped up so warm but then you're climbing hamps and heath and you get to the top

0:20.0

and you're like, and then you can see the breath but then your nose is still freezing to touch.

0:25.0

Joy in every sip with red cups now back at Starbucks.

0:37.0

If I was going to drive through Brookside Alabama, would you have advice for me?

0:43.0

Don't.

0:45.0

John Archibald is a columnist at alabama.com. Don't at all.

0:50.0

My advice to you is don't. And the reason he is warning you to stay away from Brookside,

0:56.0

a small town just outside of Birmingham is simple. It's the cops.

1:01.0

The only reason you would go that direction is if you are going from say Birmingham to Memphis or something like that on interstate 22.

1:11.0

But they've managed to acquire a mile and a half of police jurisdiction on the interstate.

1:18.0

So that's where they make their money.

1:23.0

Making money from pulling people over on the highway is not news.

1:28.0

But the way the police in Brookside do it, that is.

1:32.0

And I've covered a lot of communities like this that did the same sort of thing but just never quite on the same scale.

1:39.0

I mean half of your city budget coming from fines and forfeitures.

1:43.0

Nobody can look at that and say that's the way government was designed to run.

1:50.0

It's interesting in alabama because the state legislator years ago was a rest, was ticketed twice for speeding.

1:59.0

He had a law pass that said, you know, towns under 19,000 cannot issue speeding tickets on the interstate.

2:08.0

That's a very bespoke law.

2:11.0

But the police here get around it because they don't, they can't stop you for speeding.

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