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Police Behavior Research, Dermatology In Skin Of Color, Coffee Extraction. June 5, 2020, Part 1

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🗓️ 5 June 2020

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

This week, the killings of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, and other Black Americans by police brutality and racial inequality continue to fuel demonstrations around the nation. In many cities, police are using tear gas, rubber bullets, and other control tactics on protesters.  A history of 50 years of research reveals what makes a protest safe for participants and police alike. The findings show that police response is what makes the biggest difference: de-escalating and building trust supports peaceful demonstrations rather than responding with weapons and riot gear. And, as thousands of protesters risk abrasive, cough-inducing tear gas and mass arrests, health researchers are concerned a militant response could increase demonstrators’ risk of acquiring COVID-19.  Maggie Koerth, senior science writer for FiveThirtyEight and a Minneapolis, Minnesota resident, joins Ira to discuss these stories.   Dermatologists presented with a new patient have a number of symptoms to look at in order to diagnose. Does the patient have a rash, bumps, or scaling skin? Is there redness, inflammation, or ulceration? For rare conditions a doctor may have never seen in person before, it’s likely that they were trained on photos of the conditions—or can turn to colleagues who may themselves have photos. But in people with darker, melanin-rich skin, the same skin conditions can look drastically different, or be harder to spot at all—and historically, there have been fewer photos of these conditions on darker-skinned patients. And for these patients, detection and diagnosis can be life-saving: people of color get less melanoma, for example, but are also less likely to survive it. Dr. Jenna Lester, who started one of the few clinics in the country to focus on such patients, explains the need for more dermatologists trained to diagnose and treat people with darker skin tones—and why the difference can be both life-saving and life-altering. A cup of coffee first thing in the morning is a ritual—from grinding the beans to boiling the water and brewing your cup. But following those steps won’t always get you a consistent pour. Researchers developed a mathematical model to determine how the size of grind affects water flow and the amount of coffee that gets into the final liquid. Their results were published in the journal Matter. Computational chemist Christopher Hendon, who was an author on that study, talks about how understanding atomic vibration, particle size distribution, and water chemistry can help you brew the perfect cup of coffee.

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0:00.0

This is Science Friday. I'm Ira Flato. A bit later in the hour, why having more black dermatologists could improve skin cancer detection for patients with darker skin, and we'll pour over the science behind your perfect cup of coffee.

0:15.4

But first, Americans are protesting in every state in the nation, in scores of cities, people are marching in the

0:22.3

streets in opposition to police brutality and racial inequality. In cases where the police

0:27.7

respond with barriers, projectiles, tear gas, and pepper spray, and mass arrests in a time of

0:34.2

pandemic, you can bet there is science, research, saying what actually promotes safety for protesters and police alike.

0:42.9

Here to explain is Maggie Kerth, senior science writer for 538.

0:46.9

She joins me from Minneapolis.

0:48.9

Welcome back, Maggie.

0:49.9

Hi, thank you for having me.

0:52.0

You know, this is for me.

0:53.5

I know you're out in Minneapolis where all these protests originated

0:56.9

following the death of George Floyd.

0:59.2

And for me, this is like a deja vu talking with a journalist covering protests because I started

1:05.4

my career 50 years ago covering protests.

1:08.8

So I can only imagine how difficult it is for you as a journalist and as a

1:12.4

resident of Minneapolis. Tell us a little bit about that. Well, I have been out a couple of times

1:18.2

doing reporting in the street. Last Thursday, I had another reporter, a freelancer with the Washington

1:24.6

Post, went, ended up at the third precinct when it was being

1:28.7

burnt down. And then Saturday night, we were out again when there were very, very few protesters,

1:35.9

but a lot of, a lot of police aggression. So we have kind of seen what the violent end of things looks like from both the protester part and the police part.

1:50.2

It's been a really long week in Minneapolis.

1:53.8

The story that I'm talking to you guys about today, I actually filed a little late because I had to help my neighbors hunt through our bushes for incendiary devices.

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