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Poison (Pt 3) - An encounter in Toronto

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🗓️ 28 April 2023

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Warning, this episode contains discussions about suicide. 

In the final episode of Poison, James goes to Canada to track down Kenneth Law and confront him over his operation.    

If you or someone you know has been affected by suicide or needs to talk to someone, please get in contact with the Samaritans online https://www.samaritans.org/ or call them for free on their 24-hour helpline 116 123.

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Host: James Beal, Social Affairs Editor, The Times. 

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0:00.0

Before we begin, the following podcast contains discussions about suicide.

0:07.2

If you or anyone you know may be affected by this, there's a link in the episode notes

0:11.7

to the Samaritan's website and phone number. And do consider if you should continue listening.

0:35.1

I'm arriving in Toronto on a flight from the UK. It's just before 3 o'clock in the afternoon

0:40.7

as I touch down. I'd left the Times Newsroom in London to travel to Canada.

0:55.5

I picked up a hire car and made my way to downtown Toronto to check into my hotel.

1:01.5

By a booking under Jamesfield, a polite receptionist asks me about various deals and offers.

1:13.1

I'm not along and say a few things, but I'm slightly distracted.

1:17.2

Because I'm here for one reason only, to find Kenneth Law.

1:31.9

He's the man who's told me on a call that he's sent a poison hundreds of times to the UK,

1:37.8

which I know has been taken by some young vulnerable adults to end their lives.

1:43.4

I want to confront him over these deaths and ask him why he's doing it.

1:53.1

You're listening to stories of our times from the Times and Sunday Times.

1:57.2

I'm James Beale, social affairs editor at the Times.

2:03.6

This is Poison, a three-part podcast series about the suicide of a young British man

2:10.1

and the questions it raises. Part three, an encounter in Toronto.

2:26.5

If you've not yet listened to Parts One and Two, I'd urge you to do so.

2:30.8

In them, we learn about the death of Tom Parford, a 22-year-old student,

2:35.4

and I speak on an undercover call with Kenneth Law.

2:40.7

Now, I want to tell you about someone I've not yet mentioned during this investigation.

2:48.8

Her name is Neha Raju.

2:51.5

Neha was a 23-year-old biomedical scientist who took her own life in Gilford,

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