Point Guard Rankings 2017-18, News
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Nate Duncan
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🗓️ 9 March 2018
⏱️ 75 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome on to end of the week edition of the pod. I want to do a little bit of self-plug for the pod with Ben Taylor yesterday talking about some of the underrated and overrated players in history. He's just I thought he was incredible. I hadn't really talked much to him before but really enjoyed my conversation with him. |
| 0:16.2 | I know some people might maybe skip that over because you haven't heard of him and you're more used to our usual thing but I really recommend that interview a lot. |
| 0:23.8 | He brings a unique perspective and he's also really entertaining, well spoken also. But today we have to get into our point guard rankings. Probably will prove the most controversial. There's probably the most depth at this position in terms of star players of any in the NBA. |
| 0:40.0 | So Danny just first off why don't you just say what our methodology is here in ranking these guys. |
| 0:45.5 | The primary focus here is if you could have this player for the rest of this season and I tried to not think about as much of specific injuries unless it is an injury that will persist, you know, like throughout something like that. |
| 0:58.8 | So like John Wall being hurt right now isn't as much of a thing as more as I thought of it a little differently. I did if an NBA a full NBA season we're starting right now. |
| 1:09.5 | Oh, that's a good way. That's a better way of writing. Who would you who would you rather have any us like the nagging injuries don't include as much. |
| 1:16.3 | If it's something major or something we think we might have an effect in the guys career going forward over the whatever the next full season he plays is, then I definitely will include that. |
| 1:26.3 | And that means that this is different fundamentally from like a prospects pod where it's where will this guy be? You know, who do you want for the next three to five years? |
| 1:34.8 | Who will be good is very, very different. So for example, rookie point guards generally do not farewell for me on this list because most of them do not provide much value. There is one exception to that. Now we'll talk about that guy. |
| 1:45.1 | And doesn't really matter for guys, you know, on the back end of his career. The only the way that matters more is if you think that's |
| 1:52.1 | dispositive in terms of whether this is a good or bad year and one basic criteria for me, which is different at point guard than any other position in the league because of its responsibilities is this idea of if you had this player theoretically with |
| 2:04.4 | outweigh reasonable surrounding talent. So not necessarily any dominant players, but also none of those true just absolute dead zones. How good of an offense would you expect to have because if you don't have that shock |
| 2:16.1 | creation ball handling from this spot, you are going to need it somewhere else and that exists other places, but it's a lot harder to find. And so that was valuable to me. |
| 2:26.0 | And especially if not only are you not a great offensive player, but then you also can't hit shots off the ball as well. And I think especially for point guards, I think that the further you go in the height along the height spectrum, the more important defense becomes. |
| 2:40.1 | So definitely, you know, if a guy has a neutral RPM and he's great on defense, but not very good on offense. I would and another guy is great offense, not very good on defense in terms of RPM. I would certainly lean towards the guy who skews more towards offense at this particular position. |
| 2:56.6 | And that gets more sorry and that gets more relevant at certain points in the conversation. It is weird that there aren't as many real defensively dominant point guards around the league right now partially because some of the better defensive players have just aged out of that. |
| 3:08.7 | John Wall is a big example. This will talk about that later, but you have those differentiation points and in certain cases that comes up anything else you think we need to need to get through. |
| 3:17.7 | No, who's you number one? Steph Curry, not a lot of drama there. The idea of what can this player do for his offense is such a ludicrously strong thing for stuff. I think when I did my awards stuff. So that was March 1st, the Warriors have like a 120 offensive rating when he's on the floor. |
| 3:33.2 | And if you go, oh yeah, well, he played with him, but for those who watched the Warriors when Curry was out with that first, the more severe of the ankle spranse, they were a completely different team. |
| 3:41.2 | They still had three all stars and their offense totally changed. Curry has that value. He did before Durant was there. He, you know, if Durant left, he would have it afterwards. |
| 3:50.8 | And that is fundamentally different for me. Like he is in a tier by himself because he has proven that at a different degree. |
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