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Coming up on forum, Rita Dove joins us.

The former U.S. Poet Laureate and Pulitzer Prize winner has a new book of poetry, her first

in 12 years, where she reflects on our changing nation and reveals

that she has multiple sclerosis. Then Larry Elder was blasted recently by his fellow

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to be the state's next governor if voters approve the recall.

We learn more next on Forum after this news. This is Forum. I'm Nina Kim. Rita Dove, winner of a Pulitzer Prize for Poetry and the nation's first black poet laureate, has returned with a new collection of poems titled Playlist for the Apocalypse. It's Dove's first book in 12 years, where she reveals having

multiple sclerosis and reflects on our chaotic and complex nation. Rita Dove, welcome to Forum.

Thank you so much. And congratulations on your new book of poetry. Well, thank you. It's been a long time coming, but I'm glad that it's

finally here. Well, and so are we, and I'm actually wondering if you could start with a reading

for us of your poem Family Reunion. And feel free if there's anything you'd like to say about it

beforehand or to just

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