This audio is brought to you by Muslim Central.

Please consider donating to help cover our running costs and future projects

by visiting www.mustimcentral.com forward slash donate.

How did you feel going for hajj after 24 years?

Subhanna-ah, going for haj after 24 years was definitely life-changing.

Nowhere near what I had experienced back in 2002 when I made hajad.

And the reason why we say 24 years is we are counting the hijri years.

And when I went last, the expansions to the Jamarat had actually started before that.

It was actually just a pillar where we would pelt the Shaitan on the days of Mena.

But the changes that have happened in every single way,

it's just amazing, subhanal.

Did you notice any changes in the haram this year

compared to previous years?

Okay, before I actually go into the haram,

I want to talk about the Nusuk system where people from across the globe, based on nationalities,

and I think they're expanding this Nusuk system, they would directly deal with the service provider in Saudi Arabia,

which means you get onto your phone or your laptop and you book your Hajj.

Now, it's becoming slightly easier as the years are passing from what I have learned.

The reason is, obviously, the development of the system takes time.

There are going to be one or two million people on that system soon.

The idea they have is to try and put the whole of the Hajj as far as possible onto the Nusuk system. So there is a little bit of a delay,

there is a little bit of anxiety when it comes to booking because you're actually tapping

...