Hi, everybody. Welcome to The Librarian is in the New York Public Library's podcast about books, culture, and what to read next. I'm Frances Bartholomew 17th. And I'm Gwendolyn Glazer, the Empress of Outer Space. Yes, that's awesome.

And we have an official announcement to make.

Yeah, we are going to try and go weekly.

Those of you who listen to us regularly, we usually produce one every two weeks.

And now we're going to put a podcast out every week. And the way the format we're going to try, which we'd love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love to hear feedback on is one week's going to be just Gwen and me, Gwen and I? Me. Gwen and me. I'm usually good with that. Gwen and me, and I was.

Gwen and me talking about books and things, and the other week will be a guest. So there won't be a guest every week. So that's the format. One week, Gwen and me, and the next week, a guest with Gwen and me, and then the following Gwen and me alone, and then following week a guest. So please let us know what you think.

And we will do whatever you tell us to do.

Right, because this is, this is partly sort of due to popular demand where people were asking for it to be weekly. And we also

are going to make them a little bit shorter as well, which I think is kind of cool. But if it is not

working, we certainly want popular demand to tell us that as well. Our goal is to like basically give you a 30 minute block on a treadmill and when we're done, you know you're done. Right. Your cardio for the day is over. Congratulations. Because podcasts will listen to everywhere like working out and stuff like that. So you can time a clock by us. While you're doing the dishes, God, I hope you don't have 30 minutes of dishes. I used to actually, when I clean the house, I would put a, well, a CD at one point on. And I knew it was about an hour. And when the CD was over, I stopped cleaning regardless. Like, it's over. If I have that dust ball to get, it's not happening. Yeah. It's still going to stay there.

There's this whole school of thought that if you like spend five minutes a night cleaning, that it never builds up to the point where you have to spend a whole giant block of it, although I've never tried it. Does it work? The producer. Oh, the producer doesn't work. Yeah, like the producer cleans, please. I clean. Okay. Okay, we were talking about our format.

Oh, cleaning an hour.

Yes. Our goal is to be at set o'clock by us. Right. So we're not going to make you five-minute-long podcast. Sorry about that. Although that would be really helpful. There's a new NPR podcast that comes out in the morning that's just like 10 minutes. If you listen to this,

I know somebody who works on it. And it's really good. I really like it. What is called the

up front? Up first. Up first. You know, are you ready to segue? Yes. Because in a way that reminds

me of like back in the day that from what I've read, like in the 40s and 50s when TV was new, there were actually like 10 minute TV programs and 15 minute TV programs.

Then I also realized that there's also like the today show is like three hours long, but they have like, you know, five minute segments.

So it's like not the newest concept.

But that made me think about the book I read, which, you know, is a theme I've talked about a lot about technology and what that means.

And we talk about that a lot here.

So like to say, you know, when you said five-minute podcasts, we were like, ooh, it's something new.

And then I realize, well, there's precedence for it.

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