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This is Recode Media with Peter Kafka.

That's me.

We're part of the Box Media Podcast Network.

I'm here at Box Media, New York headquarters.

With Nick or Nicholas? How do we want to say? Nick is fine.

I'm here with Nick Kwa. He runs Hot Pod. Hot Pot is the most read newsletter about podcasting.

Probably true. It is probably the only newsletter about podcasting. Is there more than one?

It's the only one about the podcast industry that I know of, except for Jason Calcanus inside podcastinging. I think that's a newsletter as well. I know, I'm famous of Jason Calcanus, who's probably listening to this, but Nick Kwa is the must-read podcasting newsletter. I've been reading you forever, or at least a year, right? How old is the newsletter? The newsletter is actually about three years old. Three years? Almost to be three years old.

I've only been reading for a year because I've been podcasting for a year.

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