The worst is when you make a self-depreciating joke and the audience goes,

aw, and you're just like, oh, you may as well just said,

I agree!

I also think you're a piece of shit,

and I'm sad that you feel that way about yourself.

It gets better because it has to get better.

We're all made of human. You are listening to the Made of Human podcast. I am Sophie Hagen. I am your host. I am a Danish stand-up comedian that should explain the weird accent that you are forced to listen to now for a tiny bit before.

I let you listen to the episode with Aaron McGathie.

I've of course wanted Aaron on for as long as I've known about her. I did her

podcast last Edinburgh. She was meant to do mine immediately after for you know

Edinburgh reasons that didn't end up happening so now I finally got her on

uh... i got her on a live episode at the festival and it was

probably one of the weirdest

live shows i have ever done. The atmosphere was, um, I, it was so strange. I still, we still

message about it, me me and Aaron just about how I don't know if it'll come across in the recording just the weirdness of the room and how it was like me and Aaron started out being a bit taken

it back by the room and how people were reacting and then and this is what I love about

Aaron I think a lot of people would have kind of hit away a bit, you know, because you don't want to be super vulnerable.

And then in front of a lot of people who don't really get it.

But this is, you know, so if it had been me,

I probably would have just started making a lot of jokes

and, you know, I would have not wanted to talk about emotional stuff,

but Aaron just did the opposite and she went full on

...