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Hello, Homebrew Christianity listeners. This is Tripp in today's international podcast day,

so I figured I would find my favorite Irish philosopher and talk to him just for you. So in advance of a conversation, I don't know what's going to happen. Let me tell you, you're welcome. I'm welcome or they're welcome? They're welcome. Okay, sorry, I'll keep shut up for a second. No, Pete, I'm very glad you're here because it's been too long i know people are thinking we've

fallen out over like gin and beer because you because you tweeted about it well yeah yeah you're

just like oh people thought yeah because you there's a rumor going around of course i started it

but there's a rumor going around yeah it's it's like when the person comes in your church office and I'm like, well, you know, I've heard.

You know, people are saying, who?

Well, yeah, my thing, and I've told ministers, like, if you do it a few times, then you just stop getting people to bring it.

Like, the moment they say, what they say or who, you go, okay, look, it's real important for us to keep things open and honest, and I really want to hear criticism and stuff. So if you could tell me, I'll call, but put them on speakerphone. And you just got to be as sincere as possible and how honesty and openness is important, and you're really glad they're bringing it to you. And surprisingly, no one waste your time with complaints

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