We're back, all the things are sad, all the things you said, is that,

running through my head, running through my head, running through my head, running through my head,

all the things you said, all the things are said, running through my head, running through my head,

all the things is night and now. We're back.

Y'all be talking.

We were just talking with our guests about how much we talk on this show.

I'll talk about y'all be talking.

I'm happy to be back in the studio with Whammon.

Yeah.

Thanks for coming. Our return guest, Thomas Chatterton Williams is here to.

We be chatter.

To chattering a ton.

But you kind of talk a lot too.

I'm trying. I'm trying to get, like, I think I said this last time. I'm trying to get, I think I said this last time.

I'm trying to get on your level, be, you know, be chattering, be podcasting.

Your media trained, I feel.

Yeah, it takes a while, I think.

Do you enjoy or loathe doing all the press stuff every time you come out with a new book.

I do. I think it's a little bit of like a miracle when you go in a room and I don't know,

50 people in some place actually come because they earnestly want to hear you talk about something that you thought about for a few years. That's like a beautiful thing.

And, you know, everything is digital now, but actually, like, going out with a book and going

into rooms and talking to people is amazing.

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