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Visit Nike.com slash running to learn more. Hey guys, welcome to a new psycho and fanatic podcast here on the

psycho and fanatic podcast network. It was a couple months ago when I sat down with Iowa State

Athletics Director Jamie Pollard. It was a super controversial time and well you guys all remember what that

podcast was like I just appreciate Jamie's candor so much and I wanted to reach

out to him to talk about things now that we can look back a little bit.

I was still doesn't play this weekend in preparation for the Big 12 championship game coming up.

A week from Saturday against Oklahoma and I really wanted to get

Jamie's reflections on you know the last three months everything that they've been

through and also looking ahead how is this pandemic going to change

college athletics right post pandemic there's a so many questions ask the thing is, Jamie's so receptive and I know that we'll get him back on after the season is completely over and we will continue to keep that line of communication open but I'm not going to really lead into this anymore.

We talk about Iowa State's bull situation. We talk about how Iowa State has been able to keep its COVID numbers so low. We talk about finances and the business

of college sports after COVID, and I really think you guys are going to enjoy it.

Before we get to it, we want to encourage everybody to go to their

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