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I'm Tommy Ashley, joined by John Siegley, and we've got Buck Sanders with us.

It's only Tuesday.

We're missing Mike Ingersoll.

We'll get to him later in the week.

Duty calls for Mike.

But special guest Buck and not only special guest Buck, Buck, you're actually out in Berkeley,

California, already scouting out the landscape for the Carolina game Saturday against Cal.

What's going on out there, man?

Tell us a little bit about your trip thus far.

Well, you know, due to Larry Fador's secrecy rules, I can't really speak on it too much.

I'm totally undercover out here, dressed incognito in California Bears gear, sneaking around and trying to get info, which I'm funneling back to the Carolina Brain Trust there in Chapel Hill.

Just, you know, I'm keeping a low profile on the down low here, but I am definitely trying to scope out all the information I can get in and around the Cal Bears campus here.

Nice. So tell me this, as you've been out there, and we talked a little bit off air and don't want to go into it too much.

I will say this to our listeners. If you haven't been

to that area, I think Buck will attest to it. You need to go. Berkeley is a cool area. San Francisco,

of course, a great city. But Buck, you said something that, you know, I think it's sort of relevant

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