Podcast Extra: The Market Gardener Podcast - Why Nutrient Density Is the Future of Farming with JM Fortier and Kish Johnson
Regenerative Agriculture Podcast
AEA Marketing
4.7 • 548 Ratings
🗓️ 26 June 2025
⏱️ 108 minutes
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Summary
In this Podcast Extra, AEA's Director of Partnerships and Expansion, Kish Johnson, joins JM Fortier, founder of the Market Gardener Institute, for a compelling conversation on the Market Gardener Podcast.
In this episode, they discuss how data-driven tools like SAP analysis and foliar sprays are transforming regenerative farming. Kish shares how farms are eliminating pests and diseases through optimized plant nutrition and improved photosynthesis.
The conversation dives into the connection between soil biology, profitability, and nutrient density. Kish also addresses skepticism around ag "products" and offers a humble, science-based approach to farm improvement. The episode wraps with news of a research partnership between AEA and the Market Gardener Institute to adapt these tools for small-scale growers.
Additional Resources
To learn more about JM Fortier and The Market Gardener Institute, please visit: https://themarketgardener.com/
To listen to more episodes of the Market Gardener Podcasts, please visit: https://themarketgardener.com/podcast/
About John Kempf
John Kempf is the founder of Advancing Eco Agriculture (AEA). A top expert in biological and regenerative farming, John founded AEA in 2006 to help fellow farmers by providing the education, tools, and strategies that will have a global effect on the food supply and those who grow it.
Through intense study and the knowledge gleaned from many industry leaders, John is building a comprehensive systems-based approach to plant nutrition – a system solidly based on the sciences of plant physiology, mineral nutrition, and soil microbiology.
Support For This Show & Helping You Grow
Since 2006, AEA has been on a mission to help growers become more resilient, efficient, and profitable with regenerative agriculture.
AEA works directly with growers to apply its unique line of liquid mineral crop nutrition products and biological inoculants. Informed by cutting-edge plant and soil data-gathering techniques, AEA's science-based programs empower farm operations to meet the crop quality markers that matter the most.
AEA has created real and lasting change on millions of acres with its products and data-driven services by working hand-in-hand with growers to produce healthier soil, stronger crops, and higher profits.
Beyond working on the ground with growers, AEA leads in regenerative agriculture media and education, producing and distributing the popular and highly-regarded Regenerative Agriculture Podcast, inspiring webinars, and other educational content that serve as go-to resources for growers worldwide.
Learn more about AEA's regenerative programs and products: https://www.advancingecoag.com
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | There's no such thing as cheap food, right? What we pay in the grocery stores that's not good for us, we end up paying for our medical bills. |
| 0:07.2 | There's the theory of, I've put all this food on the table. Now, how much will my kids actually eat? |
| 0:12.6 | That's a good analogy. And that's kind of the same thing. In the soil test, we're saying, theoretically, here's all the food that's available for the plants to eat. |
| 0:20.4 | But what did they actually |
| 0:21.5 | eat? And that's what sap analysis tells us. There's also signatures in the infrared spectrum. |
| 0:27.1 | If you remember the old 50s diners that had the neon flash light says, come dine here, right? That's |
| 0:33.0 | essentially what is happening in the world of the insects the insects quote unquote vision when you change those |
| 0:40.5 | signatures you've essentially also turned the lights with your job he had his citrus tested next to a |
| 0:46.8 | conventional storeboard citrus sent them off to a lab very expensive testing his came back |
| 0:52.5 | and just even blew his mind. His nutrient levels are |
| 0:55.1 | like way off the charts. You've got times four, times eight, times 30 levels of different |
| 1:01.0 | nutrients. I'll say my own controversial statement, which is in 2025, I don't think anybody |
| 1:06.9 | should be wrestling with aphid. It's that easy to solve. |
| 1:14.5 | Welcome to the Market Gardner podcast, where we believe that small-scale farming is changing the world. |
| 1:20.5 | Join us for insightful conversations with people who are working to build a better future, |
| 1:25.5 | a future with less mass production and more production |
| 1:28.4 | by the masses. The revolution is in the field. Let's get digging. All right, everyone, welcome |
| 1:34.0 | back to the podcast. Today we have a really, really interesting guests, a special list that flew |
| 1:39.7 | from far away, and I want thank you this thank you about this kiss Johnson from advancing |
| 1:44.7 | ecouculture good to be here yeah great to be here yeah for making the trip absolutely I'm |
| 1:49.8 | glad the weather wasn't quite as brutal as it was the couple of weeks ago yeah you were just |
| 1:54.5 | you were just telling me that you're back from India yeah that's a that's a far far far away land |
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