the scene is believing.

Yeah.

And I will say with the insulin levels, this is anecdotal, but I'm correlating insulin levels

with coronary calcium scores.

It's like, oh, your insulin levels up, what is your LAD coronary calcium score?

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Today we're talking to John Maddeny of Dylan, Montana, who runs a family practice and

deploys a lot of personal knowledge around metabolic syndrome and insulin resistance

and blood measurements to track that in order to help

his patients be successful in resolving their metabolic disease so great to see you john here in

Seattle this time yes i appreciate being able to visit with you uh it's great and we talked a couple

of times before in san diego always fascinating conversations, patient stories.

But you, I suppose, several years ago, kind of discovered insulin resistance and the importance of insulin and glucose and chronic disease.

And did you do that through your own research or it came down from the medical bodies?

One of my colleagues had me read the book by Gary Tobbs, Good Calories, Bad Calories,

and when I read that it was an aha moment because it explained the futility of my work for about 20 years.

Oh, there are strong words.

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