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Beyond. Beyond. Beyond. That was really nice. You're really nice. Hey everyone, welcome to Podcast Beyond.

Episode 443. I'm your host, Marty Sleeve. I'm joined alongside a lot of peers. Hey, what's up?

Hey, what's up? Brian Eltono is still at home with family in the East Coast and Max is at jury duty for the trial of the century.

I'll allow it. A man that has made love to an animal. Yeah, we actually don't know. We don't know what it's max. Max actually is the defending side of the trial of the century.

Yeah, so we're running a lean show this week. Brian will be back next week, but Max will not because he's going to Greece.

Yes, more Germany to see the play Greece, but he's going to be. This time it's Greece next. I don't know. He's doing a travel. Turns out no one cares.

Oh, so the reason Andrew is on his laptop is very important. Why are you on your laptop, Andrew? I'm looking at pictures of caps.

Hey, I'm not really. For the research on the trial of the century. No, I'm actually the lead litigator. No, I am. Why are you here?

I am looking at my laptop because Disney about five and four started recording this announced that Disney and Vindy is canceled.

They are pulling out of the self publishing business entirely and they are switching to a licensing model, which means there will still be games with Disney properties, but they won't be made or published by Disney is kind of our current understanding of this.

This happened five minutes ago. Avalanche has been closed, right? Yes, so.

Yes, so it's been around for like 20 years. Not to be confused with the avalanche that makes just cause the avalanche in Utah that means Disney and Vindy. There gone.

Yeah, there.

Games for like I'm pretty sure it's 20 years. I don't remember exactly how long it's crazy. You were there a month or two ago.

I was there two months ago in Utah shooting a documentary about how Disney Infinity Toys are made. I met tons of those people who were like super passionate about what they did and had basically studied and gone through like a Disney specific school.

Their entire lives to be able to design Disney characters basically for video games and it's like does that not exist anymore? Like yeah, I mean we don't know those people my my gut is that hopefully Disney is smart enough to continue the toy line like that art style could lead to something.

Yeah, so maybe some of those people find like Disney not Disney interactive but Disney jobs like yeah, yeah, the whole thing is it's super sudden because lost I thought it was selling really well.

Yeah, it was the best selling toys to life at that is for that's telling the difference is that Disney really really made this robust game around it and obviously Skylanders does to or something like Nintendo.

Like yes, and we both are compatible with games, but they're not there isn't an amiibo platform. There isn't like a me bow the game that is the thing you buy these for.

Yeah, something Nintendo's profit margin was probably a lot higher because they're selling much of toys without really putting in those that separate dedicated development.

Yes, but you know we'll see so yes, I do my laptop if something urgently breaks out of that there's a small chance all around the room, but it'll be very dramatic and Marty will make a great.

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