Bill, we've been in the middle of the PAPN

Phonathon, Pledge Drive, we never really gave it an official name.

That's okay, we really didn't do anything extra either.

Yeah, well, like five podcasts last week, we did one.

The idea was to do more podcasts than we did

was to have a lot of illustrious industry insiders on

to increase the value of the program and thus, you know, a value add, as they say in the marketing business,

and inspire people to go to your Kickstarter.

So as we record this, right now, there are eight probably when the listeners get this seven days to go on your

kick start. You have 470 backers and from your $22,000 goal, you have $20, 530.

Yep.

What is the quick math on that?

15.

Yeah, about 1470 to go here.

Okay.

Well, I feel like we kind of struck out even though the number increased, which I think is a sign of

benevolence.

So as I introduce our guest this week, it really comes down to not a matter of acumen or expertise or

inside or knowledge. It's just is this person worth $1,400 for the next 60 minutes? Is this person's, what this person's, what this person's, what this person's

what this person brings worth $1,400?

I don't know.

Probably not.

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