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Psychedelic Salon

Podcast 690 – Terence McKenna at Esalen June 1984

Psychedelic Salon

Lorenzo Hagerty

Personal Journals, Science, Society & Culture, Natural Sciences, Philosophy

4.8567 Ratings

🗓️ 9 January 2024

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: Terence McKenna PROGRAM NOTES: Esalen Institute near Big Sur, California Although he first appeared at Esalen in the early 1970s, this may be the earliest recording of a Terence McKenna workshop there. It is from June of 1984. I think this is Terence's best and most clearly detailed description of the psychedelic experience. And that is why I'm repodcasting it now, rather than refer you to a podcast that I first published in April of 2014.Among other little gem in this talk where Terence said that of all the people he'd given DMT to over many years, only FOUR of them reported an experience like the ones he described. And then, he admitted that, and I quote: "every single one of them had been primed by me." Podcast 396 – “A Freely Evolving Topology of Light & Sound” (This is the first podcast of this talk.(The title on the cassette is Mind, Molecules and Magic)

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0:00.0

Three-dimensional transforming musical linguistic objects.

0:07.0

Helping Greetings from Cyberdelic Space. This is Lorenzo, and I'm your host here in the Psychedelic Salon.

0:23.8

And today I'm going to do something that I've, well, I've only done it once before as far as I know.

0:29.1

The first time was by accident, but this time is intentional.

0:33.1

I'm going to replay a recording from an earlier podcast.

0:37.0

There's a long explanation as to why I'm doing this, but I'll spare you the details.

0:41.3

However, after re-editing it for this podcast, I discovered that this one is now seven minutes longer than the earlier version,

0:49.3

but that's because I've become better at recovering voices that were too faint to hear in the original recording.

0:57.4

Now, this may be the earliest recording of a Terrence McKenna workshop at Esselaun, and it is from June of 1984.

1:05.4

For me, I think this may be Terrence's best and most detailed description of the psychedelic experience,

1:12.0

which is why I'm repodcasting it now, rather than referring you to a podcast that I first

1:17.1

published in April of 2014, which is almost 10 years ago.

1:22.8

Graham St. John tells me that this wasn't Terrence's first appearance at Esselin, however.

1:28.0

He said that Joan Halifax told him that Terrence first appeared as a speaker at Esclan in

1:33.2

1972 or 73 as a part of a shamanism seminar that Joan and her then-husband Stan Groff organized.

1:41.5

Apparently that event wasn't recorded.

1:46.3

Of course, it's no wonder that it wasn't recorded because in 1972, the recorders were pretty pricey back then. The purchase price of a

1:53.4

cassette recorder in 1972 was around $200, which is the equivalent to about $1,250 today.

2:02.4

When I was previewing this recording, it struck me that even from the earliest recordings of Terrence that I've listened to,

2:10.0

he was recommending a mushroom dose of five dried grams.

2:14.3

What I've never questioned before now is, where did this amount come from?

2:18.3

Did Terence and his friends do an underground study to find the best dose for a mushroom trip?

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