My guest today on the Join Up Dots free podcast interview is, Nina Kaufman a lady who is on one hand a career focused business lady with a huge interest in law and on the other someone quite different.. Yes, she is the founding is a founding partner of Paltrowitz & Kaufman, and also a founder of Wise Counsel Press, which offers legal advice for small businesses and entrepreneurs. Seems pretty standard doesn’t it, and if you are like me you already have an image of who we are going to talk to today. But then how about if we tell you that she was also a stand up comedian, and loves nothing more than bringing humour into her work as a business lawyer? Yeah, now you are interested aren’t you! Receiving her Bachelor’s degree from Wellesley College (cum laude), her Master’s degree from the London School of Economics & Political Science, and her law degree from Boston University, she layered education on to the passions she had since a young girl to use the law to help change lives. She saw the film “To Kill A Mocking Bird” and quite simply the passion for helping change occur became something that she couldn’t deny. But it seems to me that a key part to what has made he who she is today occurred in her first role straight out of law school As she says in her own words “I was working with a firm that had a revolving door of attorneys and support staff. Employee morale was low. The partners were often verbally abusive; they yelled a lot. My first experience was one where I realized I was going to have to fend for myself and that I couldn’t really rely on all the old assumptions that I had gone through much of law school with. It’s one of the reasons I became much more entrepreneurial in the way that I handled my practice and the clients I chose and what I’ve done with my J.D. since then.” Another black dot actually became the keystone to future successes. So why was she driven to go into stand up comedy when her life was built around serious issues and high level business stress? And is she now where wants to be, or is their even more dots to join up on the way to to her final destination? Well lets find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up dots with the one and only Nina Kaufman.