Welcome in to the subconscious mind mastery Thomas Miller back with you on another Sunday series episode. I've really enjoyed doing these because it just gives us a little bit of pause to step aside, whether you're listening on a Sunday or just a weekday, but we can focus on our higher self. We can really, truly focus on our higher timeline.

And I just love pulling little snippets from here and there and everywhere that help point

that way and point us to that direction. And today I wanted to go back to some place I started

years ago when all of this podcast began and the

stories that contributed to it. Good old Catherine Ponder. Do you know that she was born in

1927 and as I'm recording this in 2003? She's still going. Truly an amazing woman and a pioneer in this whole area of letting our thoughts and what we absorb ourselves into, taking us in the direction that we want our life to go.

It starts inside before it is reflected outside. Catherine Ponder is an amazing lady. The genesis of her work began in Birmingham, Alabama,

in the late 1950s. Now, for those of you who have been around a little bit, you know what I'm

referring to there. We're talking about the deep south of the United States. The civil rights

movement had not begun yet. I know a

precious lady who lives in the Dallas-Fort Worth area who went to college. She's about 10 or 15 years

younger than Catherine Ponder, but she went to college and got a journalism degree and knew the owner

of the local television station and went in

and asked for a job. We don't hire women. If you were of color in Birmingham, Alabama in

1958, you went to the back of the bus, wasn't even challenged, no thought about it, segregated drinking

fountains, restrooms, etc. And then there's Catherine Ponder. Not only a female minister, but a new age minister as well in the deep south. In 1958, there was a big recession in the United States. And Birmingham is a steel town. Steel wasn't moving.

Production was being shut down. The ripple effect through the community was enormous. It was all

that anybody was thinking or talking about. And of course, right there was the first problem.

Catherine Ponder was approached by a group of businessmen to do a class,

and their commission was to do a class on prosperity.

They wanted to hear the other side of the coin.

Catherine Ponder went looking for information that she could bring to the class

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