[Pod Yourself The Wire] 110: The Cost, with Matt Christman of "Chapo Trap House"
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🗓️ 3 November 2022
⏱️ 105 minutes
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“We have to turn our taste into politics to delude ourselves into thinking our consumption can change the direction of the ship of state.” -Matt Christman
This week on the pod, Matt and Vince invite the return of writer, podcaster, and self-proclaimed Bunk head, Matt Christman from The Chapo Trap House podcast (on tour now!) to talk about The Wire season 1 episode 10, “The Cost.”
This is a mid-aughts HBO prestige crime drama, so the crime guys have to have a strip club to use as a clubhouse. Fitting that The Sopranos’ dumbest character, Georgie, was running the Bada Bing, because The Wire’s dumbest character, Orlando, is running this show’s Balta Bing. As Vince points out, everyone in the aughts was trying to ball a little, and Orlando, tired of being the steady, nondescript hand behind the front, gets flipped by the detail after trying to buy heroin from a cop.
Things don’t end well for Orlando, or anyone else related to the Barksdale crew who tries to cooperate with the detail (poor Wallace). Don’t talk to the cops! Especially not the lovable, scampy, irish f*ckboy TV cops.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, everyone, Matt Leib here. Before we get started on today's episode, I just need to let all of our San Francisco Bay Area listeners know that on October 17th at 8 p.m. |
| 0:12.1 | My wife, my wife, Francesca, if you aren't teeny and I are going to be co-headlining the Punchline Comedy Club in San Francisco. Once again, that is Tuesday, October 17th at 8 p.m. |
| 0:24.7 | We're going to be co-headlining the Punchline Comedy Club in San Francisco. It's going to be a lot of fun. It's going to be myself, Francesca, if you aren't teeny, who is also voice my wife, and a few other comics. It's going to be great. |
| 0:40.7 | You should come. At the very least, you know, you'll get to see Francesca and I kiss on stage. It's a sex show. |
| 0:48.7 | Anyways, please buy your tickets immediately. The link will be in the show notes or you can go to www.punchlinecomedyclub.com to get tickets. Once again, that is www.punchlinecomedyclub.com to get tickets. It's Tuesday, October 17th at 8 p.m. Punchline San Francisco. Come see me. Come see my wife. Come see some guests. |
| 1:17.7 | Get your tickets now. Okay, on with the show. Hey, everyone, Matt Leib here. Before we get started on today's episode, I just need to let all of our San Francisco Bay Area listeners know that on October 17th at 8 p.m., my wife, my wife, Francesca, if you aren't teeny and I are going to be co-headlining the Punchline Comedy Club in San Francisco. |
| 1:42.7 | Once again, that is Tuesday, October 17th at 8 p.m. We're going to be co-headlining the Punchline Comedy Club in San Francisco. It's going to be a lot of fun. It's going to be myself, Francesca, if you aren't teeny, who is also voice my wife. And a few other comics. It's going to be great. You should come. At the very least, you know, you'll get to see Francesca and I kiss on stage. |
| 2:10.7 | It's a sex show. Anyways, please buy your tickets immediately. The link will be in the show notes or you can go to www.punchlinecomedyclub.com to get tickets. Once again, that is www.punchlinecomedyclub.com to get tickets. It's Tuesday, October 17th at 8 p.m. Punchline San Francisco. Come see me. Come see my wife. Come see some guests. |
| 2:39.7 | Get your tickets now. Okay. On with the show. Hi, I'm Matt Leib. And I'm Vince Mancini. And this is Pod yourself, the wire a the wire podcast or Vince Mancini and I go through every single episode of the wire and talk about it. |
| 3:02.7 | Thanks again for tuning into the world's only the wire podcast, the wire a show about how the Irish actually were slaves to so the other one I have is the wire a show about one Irishman's pursuit of drink justice and the perfect orgasm. I like that one. Go with that one. Okay, sure. Yeah, give us five stars and review on the, you know, Apple podcast or whatever app you use helps people see it and also |
| 3:31.7 | you know, text your friends, you know, the podcast because that for some reason helps people listen to it. It's a weird thing. Just say it on your phone when your phone's spying on you. So like we get some of that good secret iPhone surveillance engagement. |
| 3:48.7 | Yeah, engagement. That shit is real. That shit is real because you know, I say the word titties a lot. And now all my ads are, I mean, they're usually for like go daddy or something, but it's a woman with big titties who's selling it. So I assume that that's because specifically for you, you're the only one who enjoys that. So that's what they do. |
| 4:07.7 | And the only one who likes titties, at least that I know of. Yeah. |
| 4:12.7 | Anyways, sound boards make a comeback. Sorry. Okay. So five stars in a review. Do it now. All right. |
| 4:20.7 | Today, Vince and I and a guest are going to be talking about from season one of the wire episode 10, the cost and our guest today, you know him from such amazing podcast as |
| 4:33.7 | spot yourself a gun, a soprano's podcast, also Chapo trap house and his third credit, he was recently married. So give it up for recently married man Matt Christmas. Hey, hey. |
| 4:46.7 | Oh, oh, thank you for coming on to our wire podcast. We had you on for, you know, talking about the sopranos. Now we're talking about the wire. Tell me, do you like the wire? |
| 4:57.7 | Well, I was directly in the blast path, the cultural, the cultural footprint of the wire. I was, I had no hope. I was always going to be a huge wirehead. Yeah, I was the exact demographic that the wire is designed for. Yeah. |
| 5:15.7 | You're born now. Of course, it worked. And so it's amazing how these people all decided TV was brilliant. As soon as it became like micro targeted towards people who talk about TV on the internet, all that. Right. Yeah. So yeah, no, the wire. It's like, oh, it's realistic. |
| 5:31.7 | Yeah, there's all this salty dialogue and the complicated cases and social commentary. I mean, there's everything Dickensian aspect, which Simon himself has referenced. What's not to love, you know, it is like a big shaggy Dickens novel like it's if if this if |
| 5:50.7 | if the sopranos like established that premium television would be modeled on literature and not theater, which was what originally I think a lot of people in the 90s thought was going to be the case, like the show Oz, for example. Yeah, I feel you made the point that Oz and deadwood are very theatrical. And I that was kind of the reason I could never quite get into those. Yeah, but the sopranos really set set the tone. Nope. It's novels. |
| 6:20.7 | That and the sopranos is like a modernist psychological novel, you know, the kind that win National Book Award Pulitzer prizes. And the wire is indeed, yeah, like a baggy 19th century melodrama, like like a Dickens, which is compulsively enjoyable. So I enjoy, of course, I look back on it. And I think a lot of people have noticed. Oh, like we were all filling in some gaps here just out of enthusiasm. True. You know, that's inevitable with everything. I know people say that people always like to compare. |
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