Welcome to the Roto Wire Fantasy Baseball podcast.

I'm your host James Anderson.

And this week, I'm joined by my buddy Toby Gavin.

You might know him from Twitter as at bat flip crazy.

And I had kind of been thinking about doing this episode with Toby, if he was willing for a couple months, honestly, since the player pool kind of became

clear to me at least that I think we've got as much high-end starting pitching depth as

we've had at least this time of year in recent seasons.

And Toby, for those who don't know, is one of the or I guess he's famous

for the pocket aces strategy which I have used before I used it in in 2019 with the de Grom

and Cole which was my first time and my most successful time using it.

But I've been kind of shifting away from it in recent years.

And I knew Toby would be happy to come on and defend pocket aces, at least to some extent.

So I really appreciate you.

You hopping on to join me, Toby. How you done? Yeah, James, it's great to some extent. So I really appreciate you. You hopping on to join me. How you

do you? Yeah, James. It's great to it's great to join you. I just noticed the title of the

episode is the death of pocket aces. I feel like I've been invited to my own funeral here.

Well, I, you know, I mean, that's how are you not going to click on that title if you see that pop up on?

I mean, I would definitely click on it. So I think it's a really, it's a great title.

And this way, people that are in drafts with you don't even need to listen to the episode.

They can just know that you're not going the pocket aces route this year.

Definitely not. I'm going U-Till-U-Til to start. I think the double U-Til is definitely the way to

start drafts this year. So what has the kind of evolution been like for you in terms of when you

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