people and welcome to our humble abode the thunder down on this BA day December 9th

2025 this sports program begins now football heads and gentlemen that cadence you heard comes from

a man who has coached football for 47 years of his life he He's a Super Bowl champion. That is Bruce Ariens.

Thank you, Coach, for joining us. The Toxic Table is here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. A nine-year NFL vet supporting the Moose in his Game 7 project. That's Darius J. Bothera. Good to see you, Dee Bucch. Good to see you, Dee Butch. Big night last night. Tuesday night. We had a quarterback do something for the first time since 1978, I believe is the year

that it was.

Oh, it was a good time back in the 70s.

We had a quarterback throw an interception and then on the same exact play, have a fumble on said

play.

So that would be two turnovers, one play. Those would be two of five

total turnovers by said quarterback and Jalen Hertz. And that team still pushed it to overtime.

And the other team needed to make a game tying field goal and then a game winning field goal to

beat that team. Now, do we think that the Philadelphia Eagles are in trouble after

last night's display of football? Certainly. Do we think the Philadelphia Eagles are going to be able to win a Super Bowl again and go back to back? Absolutely not. But with everything that went wrong for them last night, they were still in that thing and they could have beat the Chargers. Now, on the flip side, DeButch, do we think the L.A. Chargers could potentially go? Do we think Justin Herbert's maybe the super handsome tough guy that shows no emotion even after they get an overtime win in prime time on Monday night football? Do we think the Chargers with Hampton Beck? The guy can move. And this guy can move. He's a rookie. He's flying all over the place back off of what, four weeks or something like that missing. Justin Herbo with a plate in his hand.

Do we think the Chargers in Hardball can make a run at this thing in the AFC after what we saw last night? I mean, you know, I'm pretty biased. This is one of my squads. It's one of my quarterbacks. We went out there and visited him. Every other game, by the way. We love Hardball. Hardball is an unbelievable coach.

So, yeah, Jesse Mentor in this defense,

they got a chance to compete.

Both defenses played great. We love hardball. Hardball is an unbelievable coach. So yeah, Jesse Mentor in this defense,

they got a chance to compete. Both defenses played great. Both quarterbacks played absolutely terrible.

Obviously, Herbert was dealing with what he was dealing with, you know, a week removed from having

surgery on his hand. And boy, was he active with that hand? A lot of running around, made some

throws when needed. But this is an ugly game. Do I think the Chargers can make a run? Yes. I think the AFC is still wide open. We looked at it yesterday. While we saw the four teams at that point that can make a run in the NFC side, we looked at the AFC and said, hey, anybody can kind of make a run, and it's kind of wide open. So I think the Chargers do have all the pieces if that old line can play better. And that's a big if. So yes, I am still in on the charges. On that note about the offensive line, here's some stats from Hemba last night about Herbert. He was pressure 22 times, 21 times he was contacted at seven sacks. Now, is he holding on to it too long? Maybe I'm sure the offensive line coach would say that Herbert has been contacted 170 times this season that's 28 more than any other NFL

quarterback and last night as he was moving up in the middle of the pile obviously

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