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On this overreaction Monday, July 21st, 2025, this program begins right now.

Sports!

Are happening all around us, and we're incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about it every single day.

Obviously, sports had a massive weekend, and we'll be chit-chatting about it all. Huge contracts handed out in the NFL. Congrats to everybody getting paid. The WMBA All-Star weekend happened here in Indianapolis. They're calling it in Diami. Ooh, I like that. They're saying it was Miami in Indianapolis. I'll tell you what I saw a lot of videos. Looks like everybody's having a great time.

Looks like everybody's having a blast. Now, there's a big statement coming out of the WMBA, obviously, with them saying, pay us what you well-wis shirts. There's different takes on all different sides. We sent an invite to Kathy Englebert, the commissioner of the WMBA, to come on on this particular day. Obviously, schedule is crazy. Look for us to chitch out with her here in a while.

Hell yeah.

Because I am trying to figure it all out.

I am trying to figure it all out. I am trying to figure it all up. Because whenever we found out what the WMBA pays their players through Caitlin Clark, she's making like $70,000 or something. They're charging $70,000 for a suite at some of these games that Caitlin Clark is playing in. Now, I know that the league's been around for 20 years. I know that it's lost money for a very, very long time here. I know they're saying like $40 million in losses potential. Now $200 million in revenue is a total. $40 million in losses. Just quick, you know, business, everybody understands. It's P&L, you know, profits and losses. $200 million in revenue. your gross your gross, then your net revenue is what you're making out of that, right? Every business has expenses, every business has costs. For the WMBA, that's a lot. Obviously, you've got like 140 players or something like that, depending upon the time, how many are hired, how many are employed, the buildings, everything else like that. They are then from that $200 million gross revenue, allegedly back here at 40 million in the red as a loss. Allegedly.

We don't know what's real and what isn't. They are then from that $200 million gross revenue, allegedly back here at $40 million in the red as a loss.

Allegedly, we don't know what's real and what isn't real, but allegedly everybody has said they'd never turn a profit.

So the immediate reaction is whenever you say pay us what you owe us, it's like, you're not making any money.

You say, what do you owe us money? This is actually one of those things.

But if we're already losing 40 million,

could you not just bump them up to at least six figures? Like $70,000 as a paycheck is a very,

that's an embarrassment. Yeah. Especially for like Caitlin Clark or all these people as a professional

sports. Now, with that being said, my dad, his job, if he would have got paid $70,000 a year growing up,

would have been incredibly pumped about that. But with how long WMBA's been around, to say the $40 million loss is the reason why you can't give them money that should be pretty easy to make happen is just why? Because if you just add 30 grand to each one of them, get that up over for a hundred thousand bucks it's another like 4.6 million so you're 444.6 million in this way

there has to be four million you can find somewhere in here that you can get that up over $100,000. It's another like $4.6 million. Say you're $44.6 million in this way.

There has to be $4 million you can find somewhere in here that you can give up to give the players at least a little bit more money because I don't think the $70,000 thing is right. But I think that negotiation is going to be tough. I think that's going to be a very tough negotiation. Now it seems like the players, though, all in, on their side of it.

And then if you listen to everybody else talk, it's like, hey, business, this is how business works.

You know, you make money you get money. That's kind of how it goes But it's like if you're operating in a 40 million dollar loss of a two hundred there's a lot of things going wrong Yeah we could sneak in an extra 30 grand per player for it to get up to $100,000 hopefully that'll be a conversation hopefully there'll be incentive be incentive base for it to go forward. But that was the big story out of the weekend. I don't love that that's a big story out of the weekend because I thought it was a great weekend here in Indianapolis. Every city, every place downtown was rented out. There was massive events everywhere. Nike took over an entire basic block of Indianapolis and built it up. It was awesome. We had a great weekend here, even though, you know, collective bargaining is going to be the conversation going forward. And there's no reason for anybody, hey, anybody, especially after his stud buds, basically brought the whole world together. That's right. Shout to the stud buds. They were just streaming their entire time here in Indianapolis. You're welcome back at the time you're getting after too oh yeah i mean they were having a good yeah stud buds were a great time

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