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Hello, you're listening to the Times Red Box Politics podcast. I'm Patrick McGuire,

still in for maturely, as he crosses the Atlantic at a snail's pace. Very busy show for you today.

We've, of course, brought you PMQ's unpacked and disinitied Kingdom at first,

time for a columnist panel. It was a cracker today with Alice Thompson and Robert Crampton.

Don't go anywhere. The columnists with Aliburth, Alice Thompson and Robert Crampton,

on Times Radio. Yes, already heard from Robert this morning. Morning, Robert.

Morning, Patrick. I spoke to you without introducing you very rude of me. And Alice Thompson,

Morning, Alice. I think it's going to be Nick Clegg, can I just say, because it can't be the

Tories or Labour. It's not Nick Clegg either, I'm afraid. I know. He's not Nick Clegg either, isn't he?

Oh, he's born in 1967, isn't he? He is, what does he go? He is. So we've already ruled out,

we've already, yeah, look, you know, love a bit of live action guest here.

Love a bit of live action guest here. We won't play the no, no, no, we won't be that cruel. Anyway,

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