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Slash Change Hello, this is the Red Box podcast. I'm Matt Sholly. What a day. Have you got any popcorn left?

I'm of course talking about PMQs and there's this other thing before PMQs, this guy that was talking

we'll probably touch on that in a sec. PMQs unpacked Boris Johnson versus Kirst. I'm a

Patrick McGuire joining me this week to unpick exactly how Boris Johnson reacted to those extraordinary

claims from Dominic Cummings. That's coming up next. First, our connoisse panel. No, Alice Thompson

today. Today her role will be taken by John Stephenson, the Daily Mail. So it's John Stephenson and Robert

Clampton.

First of all, in a sentence, your initial thoughts so far, Robert Clampton?

Well, I thought it started quite slowly and now he's warming up with the Hancock thing and

I think he just mentioned Trump and the CIA which is pretty tasty. To begin with, I thought he'd come

to Barry Boris and he's actually burying himself and keeps apologising. I mean, I think you know,

he kind of speaks well of him in a way but it was more about general incompetence and chaos and

his own failings and everybody's failings. But now he's getting into the specifics of it a bit more.

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