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🗓️ 6 July 2022
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Matt Chorley, the Sunday Times Political Editor Tim Shipman and Times Red Box Editor Patrick Maguire pick through those explosive exchanges between Sir Keir Starmer and Boris Johnson in the House of Commons.
COLUMNISTS: For a special edition, Matt Chorley speaks to the former political editors Phil Webster and Elinor Goodman on the resignations in the cabinet and how it's different from the 90's toppling of Margaret Thatcher.
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| 0:41.0 | You can listen live Monday to Friday, 10 till 1, and you can watch PMQ's unpacked live on YouTube as it happens every Wednesday at midday. |
| 0:50.0 | But that PMQ's unpack is of course coming up on the podcast in just a moment. |
| 0:56.0 | But first, I mean, there's an awful lot going on. I think by the time I came off air, 18 ministers had resigned, several other conservative MPs had withdrawn support for Boris Johnson. |
| 1:07.0 | So it was a busy old morning. I was delighted to be joined for today's columnist panel by two political journalistic legends. |
| 1:16.0 | Philip Webster and Eleanor Goodman, the columnist on times radio. |
| 1:21.0 | Yeah, we've got a very, very special columnist panel today to try and put all this into some context. |
| 1:27.0 | Are we all just getting giddy? Well, let's speak to two people who've been there and done that and seen seen off so many prime ministers over the years. |
| 1:36.0 | Philip Webster is a former political editor of the times. Morning, Phil. |
| 1:39.0 | Morning. |
| 1:40.0 | And former political editor of Channel 4 News, Eleanor Goodman is here as well. Morning, Eleanor. |
| 1:44.0 | Good morning, Eleanor. Good morning. I just want to volunteer. Boris is a worst possible day in the light of that first text you have that perhaps he gets on a plane thinking he's going to Ukraine and ends up in Moscow. |
| 1:59.0 | You do wonder how long it's going to be before he heads to Kiev again. |
| 2:05.0 | Okay, well, before I get your assessment of how today compares to previous days in history, let's just take a little trip down memory lane. |
| 2:23.0 | We're leaving Downing Street for the last time after 11 and a half wonderful years. |
| 2:29.0 | And we're very happy that we leave the United Kingdom in a very, very much better state than when we came here 11 and a half years ago. |
| 2:39.0 | When the curtain falls, it's time to get off the stage and that is what I propose to do. |
| 2:46.0 | I shall therefore advise my parliamentary colleagues that I believe that it would be appropriate for them to consider the selection of a new leader of the Conservative Party to lead the party through opposition. |
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