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Politics Unpacked

PMQs: Lawyer, Not A Leader?

Politics Unpacked

Anna Covell

News & Politics, Politics, News

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 15 October 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Hugo Rifkind unpacks PMQs alongside Patrick Maguire and Ayesha Hazarika live from the Times and Sunday Times Cheltenham Literature Festival.


Badenoch challenges Starmer over the China spy case, but Starmer enjoys arguing over legal technicalities.


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0:00.0

At PWC, we don't just deliver ideas.

0:04.0

We make them work.

0:05.0

With the expertise and tech you need to outthink and outperform,

0:09.0

and we work with you, alongside you, from start to finish.

0:12.0

So you can stay ahead, so you can protect what you built, so you can create new value.

0:18.0

We build for what's next, so you can get there now. PwC, so you can.

0:24.7

PWC refers to the PWC network and all one or more of its member firms, each of which is a

0:29.2

separate legal entity. This is Hugo Rifkind. Before we get on with the podcast, this episode

0:35.6

of Politics Unpacked is sponsored by SSE, championing clean energy across the UK and Ireland.

0:41.4

The UK has ambitious clean energy targets, and SSE is investing in the infrastructure that will turbocharge homegrown energy and turn policy into progress.

0:50.0

They're building the world's largest offshore wind farm to power more than six million British homes, transforming the grid to transport cleaner power across the country,

0:57.0

pioneering low-carbon technologies such as carbon capture and hydrogen,

1:00.0

and supporting thousands of skilled jobs.

1:03.0

And for days when the wind isn't blowing and the sun isn't shining,

1:06.0

SSE is working to cut emissions from the flexible backup power we need today

1:10.0

to help secure the

1:10.9

country's energy future. As the government pursues its plan to turn the UK into a clean energy

1:15.2

superpower, SSEC is investing on average over £8 million a day in the mission-critical energy

1:20.6

infrastructure that will help make it happen. Find out more at sace.com slash change.

1:25.6

Hello, I'm Hugo Rifkind on Times Radio live at the Times and Sunday Times,

1:30.4

Cheltenham Literature Festival.

1:36.4

It is Wednesday, it is midday, which means it's time for this.

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