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Coffee House Shots

PMQs: at least Kemi is enjoying herself

Coffee House Shots

The Spectator

Politics, Daily News, News

4.42.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 December 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

It was PMQs today and it is clear to see that Kemi Badenoch is starting to enjoy herself. She opened with the departure of the head of the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR), as it allowed her to suggest that Starmer was dodging taking responsibility himself. She asked: ‘Does the Prime Minister believe that when an organisation descends into total shambles, the person at the top should resign?’ To be fair, she has lots of ammunition between the leaks, botched Budgets and Cabinet discontent – however, the leader of the opposition does seem to be hitting her stride just at the moment when the Tories are enjoying a modest bump in the polls. Can she keep it up?

Also on the podcast, the rumour mill is buzzing with renewed talk of a Tory/Reform pact after comments made by Nigel Farage to a group of donors. Reportedly he told the room that an agreement on cooperation between the two parties could help Reform’s path to No. 10. Is a pact becoming more likely?

Lucy Dunn speaks to Tim Shipman and Isabel Hardman.

Produced by Oscar Edmondson.

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0:22.6

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0:35.5

Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots.

0:40.9

I'm Lucy Dunn and today I'm joined by Tim Shipman and Isabel Hardman.

0:49.4

Prime Minister's questions has been and gone and today's session touched on the budget, the fallout from that and the two child benefit cap being scrapped.

0:54.1

Isabel, what did you make of Kemi's performance today? She seems more confident than usual.

1:12.0

Yeah, she's enjoying herself now, isn't she? I mean, she had one stumble, which was where she was trying to say a broken budget for Benefits Street, but she ended up saying that the government had a broken bed. Which, to be fair, as far as we know, is not a major problem for anyone in government at the moment. But apart from that, it was a confident performance.

1:14.1

But, you know, it's pretty easy for her.

1:11.2

There's so much to go with.

1:16.1

And she picked the most obvious opener, which was on Richard Hughes, having to leave the

1:21.4

office for budget responsibility. And she, I thought, quite rightly, made it about Stama not taking responsibility for failures.

1:31.3

And that was her theme through her questions.

1:33.4

And I thought she did a pretty good job.

1:35.4

But then I also think that Stama actually, in terms of where his focus is at the moment, he did an OK job too because he was able to talk about how he was proud of a government that was taking children out of poverty and the Tories being the party of child poverty.

1:49.8

And that cheered his backbenches up momentarily at least.

1:52.9

I mean, I'd say that most of them are deep despair if you talk to them privately.

1:56.7

But they did at least manage to sort of exhale enough to sound like they were cheering today.

2:01.7

So I think he'll come away feeling like that worked for him as well.

2:05.5

I mean, Tim, on that point that Isabel just made of deep despair on the Labour backbenchers,

2:10.5

you know, Kimmy to have talked as well today about how the cabinet ministers have expressed

2:14.5

their frustration with the budget and the whole process leading up to that.

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