PMQs: A Leader Not A Lawyer
Politics Unpacked
Anna Covell
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🗓️ 8 January 2025
⏱️ 45 minutes
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PMQs Unpacked is back for the new year and today Keir Starmer and Kemi Badenoch clash over whether there should be a national inquiry into child sexual abuse by grooming gangs.
Hugo Rifkind unpacks the exchanges from the Commons with the help of Sunday Times chief political commentator Tim Shipman and comedian Alistair Barrie.
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| 0:00.0 | PMQ's Unpacked on Times Radio, unpacking the politics and cutting through the crossfire. |
| 0:07.6 | Yes, it's time for PMQ's unpacked, and I am joined as so often, as I always should be, by the Sunday Times Sunday Chief Political Commentator Tim Schittman. |
| 0:15.0 | Hello, Tim. |
| 0:15.5 | Hello, Hugo. Happy New Year to you. And also, as I should be frequently, if not always, Alastair, the comedian. Hello, Alistair. How are you? |
| 0:22.8 | I'm very well and happy New Year to you both as well. |
| 0:24.9 | I do like this saying Happy New Year, even though it's the eighth. I haven't seen either |
| 0:27.3 | of you this year. I'm allowed to say it. That does mean happen, Tim? Is this going to be grooming, grooming, |
| 0:38.8 | grooming, grooming, Elon Musk, grooming? The big question really is whether Prime Minister Elon Musk is |
| 0:43.4 | planning to join us today, to face the questioning that he needs about his many interventions. I mean, |
| 0:50.5 | my reflection is that we all went for a lie down over Christmas and we've come back and |
| 0:54.5 | somehow British politics has gone more bizarre than it was in the last quarter of last year. |
| 0:59.7 | So yeah, I mean I would imagine it's going to be grooming. |
| 1:03.9 | Kemi Biedenock reform both on a mission. |
| 1:07.5 | Starma back to the wall a little bit on it, though apparently coming out swinging yesterday |
| 1:12.1 | and keen to sort of put their side of things and they're playing hardball on this bill as well. |
| 1:17.0 | I mean, you would have thought Labour with a majority of a squillion could vote down whatever |
| 1:22.6 | trickiness that conservatives get around playing at. But yeah, passions are running high, so I'm |
| 1:29.1 | expecting fireworks. Well, I mean, what's interesting is there is real bad blood and anger over this, |
| 1:35.0 | because, I mean, it was just there in the news roundup I just gave, but the fact that if there is, |
| 1:39.1 | if they do pass the amendment and call for another inquiry, that will kill the children's |
| 1:43.4 | bill, which itself is |
| 1:44.9 | meant to include new protections on abuse. So in order to have an inquiry, you're knocking down |
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