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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist you know the misinformation

about vaccines uh and associating certain people like myself or fouchy having malign intent with vaccines

that was most acute in the united states but uh pandemic, which you would have thought,

wow, global health research, talking about health,

being ready for the next pandemic,

you know, when you've got millions of deaths,

isn't that, you know, it's sad, it's tragic,

but isn't at least there a benefit that health is on the agenda?

Sadly, it's a topic nobody wants to talk about because it was painful.

You know, it's over.

Let's move on from that.

We should have free speech.

But if you're inciting violence, if you're causing people not to take vaccines, you know,

where are those boundaries that even the U.S. should, you know,

have rules? And then if you have rules, you know, what is it? Is there some AI that encodes those

rules because you have billions of activity? And, you know, if you catch it a day later the harm is is done the Gates

Foundation's very involved in vaccines the invention of new vaccines funding vaccines and

we're very proud that through joint efforts like gobi that saved tens of millions of lives

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