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Eric Morrow has been a guest of ours with the Middle East Forum in the past on military matters, particularly related to Iran.

We conducted an interview with him earlier today.

Immediately afterwards, Iran hit the U.S. base in Qatar.

So some of what he says, he does not have the virtue of knowing that just yet.

I will get to that later in the show.

Lieutenant Colonel Eric Navarro of the Middle East Forum is our guest. We're talking about

what happened in Iran. Folks, I want to be very clear that this is, I am not an interventionist,

an interventionist. I am not a regime change guy. I am not typically in favor of those sorts

of things. My views, like many folks, have evolved over the years. I am not a regime change guy. I am not typically in favor of those sorts of things. My views, like many folks, have evolved over the years.

I am not suggesting that you have to support the effort of what happened in Iran.

I'm not suggesting you have to support regime change.

I do think these are conversations we should have.

And something did just happen, and we're discussing what happened.

So I want you to understand why we do that.

This is not an advocacy project, to be clear at all.

I think this is a nuanced question.

It's a very complicated question as it relates to our nation and the world, and we should

have thorough conversations with each side.

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