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The Michael Vary Show is on the air. Congressman Jim Jordan is our guest from the great state of Ohio.

He has been a leader in and of the Freedom Caucus in Congress.

We had big news this week of the Southern Poverty Law Center, Congressman,

and them feeding money to right-wing extremist organizations that they then talk about the rise of.

What hypocrites in a criminal fraudulent act?

What do you make of all this?

Does it surprise you?

No, this is, Michael, Michael, going to be with you.

This is unbelievable. Instead of fighting extremism, they were actually funding it, $3 million.

You know, this is, well, I always say when we dig into these investigations. Oh, by the way,

Southern Poverty Law Center was also the group that the, you know that the now famous FBI memorandum in the Richmond Field Office that said, if you're a pro-life Catholic, you're an extremist.

They were using Southern Poverty Law information. That's who they were citing in the day, meaning FBI was citing in this memo.

So this is how bad it was. And we always say this, sort of half joking, but it's always been true.

Whenever we dig into these investigations and start these investigations, the only thing we get wrong.

The only thing we get wrong is it's always worse than we thought.

And here we go again.

Now here's a couple of key questions, I think, Michael, they paid these informants in these crazy extremist groups. I want to know if these guys

were also getting paid by the FBI, because we know the FBI was using all kinds of informants.

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