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Guaranteed Human.

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The Michael Very show is on the air.

Tremendous fraud.

It's tremendous fraud.

And it's hard to believe that you can have

that kind of fraud. Billions and billions of dollars being thrown away illegally and there's no

chance. I mean I say in front of our attorney general, but there's no chance that there's not

kickbacks or something going on. Hospice fraud costs taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars every year.

In California is ground zero.

So basically people steal Medicare numbers.

They enroll them in hospices and then bill for tens, sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars.

A lot of these companies are just fronts.

So over 700 of the roughly 1,800 hospices

in L.A. County trigger multiple red flags for possible fraud. So we went door to door. And what we

found was empty office spaces, piled up mail, and not a single health care worker. We believe that

the Somali fraud operation in Minnesota is the single greatest theft of taxpayer dollars through welfare fraud in American history.

We believe that we have only scratched the very top of the surface of how deep this goes.

And you're familiar with all the scams with pretending that children have autism who are not in fact autistic,

with pretending to enroll people in food programs when in fact nobody was ever enrolled.

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