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The Michael Vary show is on the air. Well, wherever you may be in the country, you may have glanced at the news out of Texas, or you may be glued to the screen.

You might be aware of some flooding, and a lot of people have died, and a lot of people are missing, a lot of people are missing or you might be intimately

familiar with some of the families involved what i would like to do over the next couple of

hours is to give you perspective on this story close to it as I am.

I do not have a child that was at either of the camps that were flooded,

but my two sons did go to school with the older young lady,

Chloe Childress, who passed.

She was a camp counselor and knew a number of other kids who were rescued and some who passed.

We were not at the camp, as I said, so it was not our immediate grief to experience.

But certainly it is a there but for the grace of God go I.

My oldest son, Crockett, went to Young Life camp this summer, as his brother did before him two years ago.

That is in between your junior and senior years.

It's a Christian-based camp where you carry your gear up a mountain, and in the course of a week, you scale the mountain and come back and each day you sleep outside

after Bible study and it's it's been a wonderful experience for both of my boys wonderful experience

young life as a Christian organization for Bible study and fraternity fellowship has has been really good for both of my boys.

But I would like to talk to you and give you some perspective that perhaps national news

cannot provide on what has happened in what we call the hill country of Texas. That phrase has been around

for a long time. You think of Texas as being flat, and you're mostly right. We have an incredible

canyon called Palladuro Canyon, which I believe is the second largest canyon in the country.

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