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about writing i'm best-selling author b Bianca Moray and I'm joined by

C.C. Lira of Wendy Sherman Associates and Carly Waters of PS Literary. Hi everybody. We have

clients with me today. I love it when I get to have my clients on the show. I know Bianca carries such a heavy load of doing all of the author interviews and I get to pepper in the schedule with my clients, which is great. So I have two clients, as you will notice, if you are watching us on YouTube, I have two clients because they co-write together. My lovely clients, Tracy Dobmeier, Wendy Casman, authors of 10,000 Light Years from Okay. And again, if you're on YouTube, you can see it over their shoulder there in between. So we're going to talk about their sophomore novel. I guess we can call it sophomore because it is the sophomore published novel. And as you guys know on the show, we'd love to talk about the publishing experience. So we'll get into everything that

these guys have worked on, everything going on with this book. And I'm going to throw into these two

to introduce the novel. So Whitney and Tracy, what is your new novel about? Great. Hi, I'm Tracy. And so,

yes, our novel is about a young writer. So several years after her husband's shocking death mirrored a plotline in

her debut novel. She's very superstitious and she's on the verge of squandering her entire career

when a bedtime tale that she spins for her young daughter convinces her to write a hopeful romance.

So unfortunately, when a man bearing an uncanny resemblance to the novel's love interest suddenly walks into her life,

she has to learn the difference between imagining happiness and fighting for it before it costs her everything.

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