Plot twist: We're probably way undercounting insects on Earth
Short Wave
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🗓️ 10 July 2026
⏱️ 9 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to Shortwave from NPR. |
| 0:05.9 | Hey, Joe Waver, is Regina Barber here. |
| 0:08.1 | And Nate Rutt. |
| 0:09.3 | With our biweekly science news roundup featuring fellow space nerd, Scott Detrow, of all things considered. |
| 0:14.6 | Hey, Scott. |
| 0:15.2 | I am slumming it here today talking in an episode that contains non-space news, but I'm doing that for you. |
| 0:22.3 | Excellent. |
| 0:23.2 | We're going to talk more about space next week, too. |
| 0:25.3 | But this week, we've got a few mysteries unraveling. |
| 0:28.9 | First up, how many different types of insects are there on the planet? |
| 0:32.6 | Scott, do you have a guess? |
| 0:34.0 | Like, overall raw total or like species? |
| 0:37.4 | Species. |
| 0:38.1 | Okay. |
| 0:38.5 | I don't know. Four million. I don't know. I don't know. A lot. Well, you didn't go over. I'll give you that. We're going to tell you. Quick side question, just because I'm a nerd. Do either of you guys have a favorite insect? Yes. What's yours? It's a firefly because I never saw them on the West Coast until I moved to the East Coast. |
| 0:56.9 | I was going to say Firefly. Oh, we're the same. We're the same. Let's get Firefly tattoos. I was literally looking up during the Fourth of July and I was looking at all the stars. We were out away from City Lights and I saw the stars and I saw fireflies in the trees. |
| 1:11.0 | It was so cool. |
| 1:12.4 | What a win. |
| 1:13.2 | I know. |
| 1:13.9 | Speaking of astronomy, you know, see, that was my segue. |
| 1:17.1 | We have another story that looks at quasars, bright lights from ancient galaxies. |
| 1:22.5 | So these are really, really old fireflies that can tell us more about the formation of the universe. |
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