Hi, Philemen, yeah, valetian, yeah.

Hey, everybody, it's Matt. This is the 10-minute Bible Hour podcast. And in boring movies, you have a tension between a bad guy and somebody who's on team

good guy and pretty early on you figure out oh this is why the bad guy hates the good guy and in

boring movies you get to the end and you were like i was right that's why the bad guy hated

the good guy won. But in more

interestinger movies, the motivations of the bad guy turn out to be a little bit of a surprise.

And in such movies, there's usually a moment where the bad guy and the good guy with whom the

bad guy has a gripe, they have a confrontation, and the bad guy will clarify their motives.

The formula of this little speech is something like, you think I hate you because of thing number one, but I actually hate you because of surprise thing number two.

And then you're like, oh, wow, this is more complicated.

Our characters, our good guys are more compromised.

Our bad guy is more relatable.

I'm still rooting for the good guys, but dang it.

Bad guy has a gripe.

Chief example of this would be Javier Bardem's character in Skyfall. He's an agent like James Bond.

And in that line of work from time to time, agents just get burned. It happens. It's, you know,

it's hazards of the job. And so you think throughout the movie that Silva's gripe is that M,

Judy Dench's character, the one who runs MI6, yeah, thanks, Silva's gripe is,

you burned me in the field, and I said I knew the risks, but when it actually happened,

it made me mad, and now I'm back for revenge, and that doesn't make you feel very sympathetic

to him. But then when he actually spells out what his gripe is, his complaint is that M acted as a mother to him,

loved him, and mentored him, and made him really believe that she cared for him, but then she devised

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