Matt's mom here. We are here for Thanksgiving, and I want to take just a minute to thank you so much for supporting Matt and his family. We appreciate what he does, if I'm in, yeah.

Yeah.

If I'm in, yeah.

Hey, everybody, it's Matt.

This is the 10-minute Bible Hour podcast, and I've yet another weird, deeply personal question that I want to ask you on the front end of our conversation today.

Do you have a moment in your history where your memory shifts from

stuff that is really memories that other people gave you about when you were a super little kid

to memories that you actually hold and you know for sure. I was there. I remember how it felt.

For me, this is definitely a thing. And I think the moment was at Crown Center in

Kansas City. I think Crown Center is in Missouri, right? Most of the good Kansas City stuff is on the

Missouri side, I think. I don't know. I'm not super up to speed on my Kansas City geography. But I know,

we were at Crown Center. It's this kind of shopping mall there in downtown, and there was some public art there.

It was like mid-century public art, you know, kind of goofy looking, weird curves and stuff, sort of abstract.

And there was an indoor fountain or pool there.

I can still smell the chlorine from the pool.

I can still remember people maybe throwing coins in there. And I

remember little toddler me looked at this public art or whatever it was and thinking, oh, there's

kind of a curvy little cubby hole in there. I could climb in there. That would be a fun

place to explore. And I did. And my parents snapped a picture and they told me the story about it.

But all the pictures from before that, I remember vicariously through their stories. That picture, I remember sights,

sounds, smells, the moment, how it felt, my parents' emotions. And that's the earliest thing

I think I've got that is kind of an in-color memory that I

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