Hi, I'm Benjamin Light.

And I'm Marcus Parks.

And welcome to Bros. Watch Fuel 2.

We are joined today by a very special guest, the creator and showrunner of Pretty

Little Liars.

I'm Marlene King.

How are you, Marlene?

I'm doing so great.

I'm so happy to be here with you guys.

It's taken me a while to finally get a spot on your podcast. But I'm super

excited and you guys are awesome and your fan base is so awesome as well. So I'm excited to talk to you

guys and get kind of the bros perspective on this episode and the show. Awesome. Well, thank you

for joining us. We will be talking today about season three, episode 16,

Misery Loves Company, which was the first episode you directed. That was kind of one question we had

right at the start was why this episode, why was this the one that was your first directorial

debut there? Well, you know, it's interesting when you, when you're the showrunner you get to you assign directors to

episodes before you even start shooting that that season so i knew way in advance that this was

going to be the episode that i was going to direct and one of my favorite books and films is

is misery stephen king's you know. And I love the movie as well.

And I thought, I'm going to pay homage to that, knowing it's going to be the first episode I directed.

And so it was, I kind of backed into it like that. And when we broke the season, we kind of knew,

we know, we know the, when we break the season, we know sort of the spine of each episode before we

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