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Deadline: White House

“Playing with fire”

Deadline: White House

Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW

Politics, News, Ms Now, Government, Nicolle Wallace, Daily News, Msnbc, Versant, The White House, Washington Dc

4.56.4K Ratings

🗓️ 26 August 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Nicolle Wallace drills down on the democratic implications of Donald Trump’s removal of a Federal Reserve Governor and looks at the states now contemplating a redistricting fight of their own.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi there, everyone. It's 4 o'clock in the east. Donald Trump playing with fire today

0:08.0

when it comes to the American economy, a one strong area for him politically that now sees some of his lowest approval marks ever in areas like inflation and tariffs,

0:19.0

as well as a majority of Americans now expressing anxiety about how

0:23.1

much things cost. So what does a politically vulnerable wannabe autocrat do? Well, he lunges for the

0:30.8

steering wheel with an unprecedented and likely illegal attempt to fire a member of the

0:35.8

Independent Federal Reserve Board of

0:37.6

Governors, Lisa Cook.

0:39.1

Here's economist Paul Krugman on the Rachel Maddo show last night, sounding the alarm.

0:44.8

This is a five alarm fire because it's not just about Lisa Cook.

0:49.6

It's clearly, as I said, on my substack, this is about intimidation.

0:54.8

This is saying, you know, it's a message not just, you know, he's not just that he's

1:00.2

claims he's firing Lisa Cook, although he doesn't, I'm not sure that he has the right to do

1:04.5

that, but it's a message to everybody else on the Fed's board and basically to government

1:10.0

officials of any kind that get in our way,

1:14.0

don't act as an obedient minion of Donald Trump, and we will ruin you.

1:19.1

We will destroy you.

1:19.8

If this stands, we immediately become a, we become Venezuela, we become Turkey, we become a place where all of this

1:29.5

stuff is just at the winds of the strong man in charge.

1:35.1

Now, Cook is the first black woman to serve on the board of the Federal Reserve.

1:39.7

She was appointed by President Joe Biden, and her term is not set to expire until 2038. She is one of

1:46.7

seven governors, and if Donald Trump succeeds in removing her, he will have appointed a majority

1:52.3

of the governors on the board, which would give him greater control over the country's central bank.

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