Playing Pretendian

Code Switch

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Society & Culture

4.6 • 14.5K Ratings

🗓️ 26 January 2022

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

People lie about being Native American all the time – on college applications, on job applications, in casual conversation. But how do "Pretendians" hurt real Indigenous people and communities? And what does all that mean for people who aren't quite sure if they're claiming or reclaiming?

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0:00.0	I'm Sequoia Carillo and you're listening to Code Switch from NPR.
0:04.2	You might have heard my voice on the show before.
0:07.0	I'm an assistant editor for the NPR education team and I'm going to be guest hosting this
0:11.4	episode while jeans away.
0:13.0	Today, we're also joined by Code Switch's Sam Yellow Horse Kessler.
0:16.8	Hey Sam.
0:17.8	Hey Sequoia, so is this the first time it's just been native folks on Code Switch?
0:22.1	I feel like it must be.
0:23.7	Yeah, it's like land back but we're just starting with this one show.
0:27.5	Baby steps, you gotta start somewhere.
0:29.5	So, what's up?
0:31.6	What are we talking about today?
0:32.8	Well, I want to begin by introducing you to Joey Clifft.
0:36.1	Do you want to include a treble affiliation in there?
0:39.2	If you want to, you don't have to.
0:41.4	Okay, well I'm going to do it anyway.
0:43.5	Just try to stop me.
0:45.2	I appreciate it.
0:47.0	Everyone, my name is Joey Clifft.
0:48.6	I'm a comedian, TV writer and a role member of the Kellids Indian Tribe.
0:52.7	He was telling me about a time he was writing for a sketch comedy showcase for a TV network
0:57.0	back in 2014.
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