This is off track.

All right guys, hello and welcome to an off track with Hinge or Rossi.

Again, you guys lost the lottery and you're stuck with me this week.

But we have a very special guest on the show today. I'm

super excited to welcome Aaron Likens to the show. Now, Aaron's name might not be

super familiar to a lot of you. It might be to some. He's fairly active on

Twitter. He is a published author, you know, an advocate for for many causes, but I

first learned about Aaron from his I guess weekend job would we call it as the

official flagger for the NTT Indycar series so first of all Aaron welcome to the show.

Well thanks for having me. It's, it's, I want to just kind of tell people my story about how I really first learned

about you and it's kind of shameful.

I'm going to be honest because I have driven under you plenty of times in my career and any driver will tell you that

Yeah, we see the flag from time to time but we rely so much more on the radio now, on the lights on the dash, and shamefully,

didn't, you know, didn't pay as much attention to what was happening up in the flagstand maybe as I should have as a driver.

And then one day, it must have been two years ago, Indy 500 qualifying.

And I'm sat up in the night floor of the pagoda, which is maybe a little bit higher than you

are up in the flagstand, but not much.

So we're not quite eye to eye, but we close and you know our our kind of mission statement or

you know job requirement in the booth is always look at the TV don't look out the

window right because you can't talk about what's out the window, you've got to talk about what you're

looking at. But at the corner of my eye, I just threw the screens and all the stuff, there was a little

gap in all the equipment and through the window I had a perfect view of you up in the flagstand.

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