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The Modern Mann

Playback: The Unlucky Ones

The Modern Mann

Matt Hill

Relationships, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.8753 Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

To celebrate our tenth anniversary, we're replaying Producer Matt's favourite interview from our extensive back catalogue. Jo and Steve Peck suffered not one, not two, but recurrent miscarriages over the course of four years, before seeking private treatment.In this searingly honest, compelling interview with Olly, they reveal the toll this took on their marriage, their work and their mental health - as they watched their friends begin families - gradually realising it may never happen for them. If you’ve been affected by miscarriage, ectopic pregnancy or molar pregnancy, the Miscarriage Association offers support and a pregnancy loss helpline: miscarriageassociation.org.uk This episode first aired in July 2018. Now remastered and with an update from Steve and Jo in 2025, we're replaying this interview as part of our tenth birthday celebrations. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, I'm Ollyman and it's the last Friday of the month, so we're here to bring you another of our favourite stories from what is now 10 years of making this show.

0:11.6

And as we celebrate that milestone, this month it's producer Matt, who has recommended a story that stayed with him for many years. If you've been listening for a while

0:22.5

to our show, maybe it stayed with you as well. It's from 2018. It's called the unlucky ones.

0:29.7

And I suspect once you've heard it, you'll want to reach out to someone. Perhaps someone you haven't

0:36.3

spoken to in years. And actually,

0:39.0

that's just what we've done. Stay tuned at the end of the interview as we reconnect with Steve

0:45.0

and Joe seven years on. That's the unlucky ones. This month's Modern Man Playback. And it all

0:52.2

starts next.

1:12.6

Sean has had some good ideas over the years, But using Canva was a really good one.

1:17.4

Sean designed some social posts to promote his friend's car boot sale.

1:19.4

They looked good.

1:21.5

Really, really good.

1:28.7

Next thing he knows, someone came and bought the lot, including the car.

1:31.8

Now Sean doesn't know I was going to get home.

1:34.2

Thanks, Canva.

1:42.6

Now, back in 2018, a man fan called Steve Peck wrote to us here at The Modern Man and said that he and his wife Joe wanted to come onto the show to share their story.

1:48.8

It is a subject that is rarely talked about in the media, or indeed in everyday life.

1:54.1

And yet it happens so often, I promise you, you will know somebody that has been affected by it, perhaps several people. It's the

2:02.0

story of a miscarriage, in fact, of multiple miscarriages. This is their story. We were in the

2:11.8

same maths class at school. It wasn't actually until we were about 18 that we kind of first got together.

2:18.9

He'd gone on holiday and was having quite a nice time and I'd heard about it.

2:25.1

Oh.

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