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The Modern Mann

Playback: I Need To Lie Down

The Modern Mann

Matt Hill

Relationships, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.8753 Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2026

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Professional dancer Raquel Meseguer had back surgery at the age of thirty, to treat chronic neuropathic pain. But, it didn’t alleviate her symptoms. In this insightful interview with Olly, she explains how this bombshell has impacted upon the daily practicalities of her life, why she doesn’t feel welcome in our ‘vertical culture’, and how well-meaning members of the public have repeatedly shamed her for committing the cardinal sin of... lying down. This episode first aired in April 2018 under the title, Cloudspotting. Now remastered and with a 2026 update from Raquel, we've paired this with our most recent interview: Trapped In The Rubble Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

So retrospectors, what historical events are we ticking off on this week's run of today in history? On Monday, Earhooks, lenses and bifocals, a brief history of spectacles. On Tuesday, the anniversary of the day Francis of Assisi first put on his sackcloth. On Wednesday, the dapper French businessman with a garden full of dead bodies. On Thursday, it's the 189th Academy Awards, and the winner isn't La La Land.

0:21.9

And on Friday, throw me something, mister, how mighty grah came to America.

0:25.9

That's today in history with the retrospectors.

0:28.4

Ten minutes each weekday, wherever you get your podcasts.

0:32.5

Hey, Olly Mann here, and as it's the last Friday the month, it's time for our playback

0:37.2

edition, Another chance

0:38.6

to bring you an interview you may have missed from modern man's past. And if you've heard our most

0:44.3

recent episode trapped in the rubble, then you'll have met Robbie, who spent six hours

0:49.7

awaiting rescue from a Moroccan earthquake. Well, as part of that conversation, Robbie recounted how, as he recovered from his injuries,

0:59.1

he began to experience the world in a new way.

1:03.4

His flat in London, the local tube station, now from the perspective of someone with disabilities.

1:09.9

He began to notice how not everything is as adapted

1:13.2

as you might hope in 2026. And that reminded me of a conversation we had on the show back in 2018

1:20.5

with Raquel Messagher. She's a professional dancer and she lives in chronic pain.

1:31.4

It's a conversation we originally released with the title Cloud Spotting.

1:32.4

You'll hear why.

1:40.3

And in it, Raquel explains to me how for a long time she didn't feel welcome in our vertical culture, as she calls it.

1:48.3

And how some well-meaning members of the public have actually repeatedly shamed her for having to lie down.

1:55.8

It's a fascinating first-hand insight into how one woman has gone about daily life and work with a disability in the UK and touches on what she these days terms Crip activism.

2:01.6

Raquel sent us an update.

2:02.6

Stay tuned to the end of the interview to find out what she's up to now.

2:06.6

I need to lie down.

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