Playback: Deep Inside the First Wilderness

Overheard at National Geographic

National Geographic

Science, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 16 May 2023

⏱️ 24 minutes

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On assignment in the canyons of the Gila Wilderness, Nat Geo photographer Katie Orlinsky has a fireside chat with Overheard host Peter Gwin about telling stories through pictures. She chronicles how she found her way—from growing up in New York City to covering workers' rights in rural Mexico to the world’s most grueling dogsled race in Alaska. For more information on this episode, visit nationalgeographic.com/overheard. Want more? To see some of Katie's photos from the Gila, take a look at Peter Gwin's article How to visit the Gila Wilderness. In her work on the Yukon Quest sled dog race, you can see what it looks like to cross 1,000 miles of Alaska on dog power. On Katie’s personal website, you can see more images, including from her time in Juárez. Also explore: And magazine subscribers can see Katie’s photos in our recent story about thawing permafrost. Sometimes that thaw creates pockets of methane under frozen lakes that scientists test by setting on fire. That story was also featured in our podcast episode about how beavers are changing the Arctic. If you like what you hear and want to support more content like this, please consider a National Geographic subscription. Go to natgeo.com/exploremore to subscribe today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Knock, knock, who's there? It's the land of same day. What?
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0:13.0	more than 25 pounds to your restrictions in terms of life.
0:18.6	Hi, this is Overheard, Senior Producer Brian Gutierrez. Two and a half years ago,
0:23.0	I went with National Geographic, Editor-at-large Peter Gwynn, to the
0:25.9	Heliwilderness in New Mexico. It's America's first national wilderness.
0:29.5	It's also the cover story for the June issue of National Geographic. Back in
0:33.8	2020, tracking to the middle of wilderness was like the ultimate social
0:37.6	distancing. Photographer Katie Urlinski was with us in that assignment, and we
0:42.2	couldn't pass up the opportunity to interview her around the campfire about
0:45.0	her craft and career. Since then, Katie has returned to the Heliwild for more
0:49.3	times to photograph the wilderness in every season, set up camera traps
0:52.6	from mountain lions and take all kinds of crazy pictures. Next week, we'll
0:57.3	have a new original episode for you set in the Heliwild. It's about how Peter
1:00.4	met Mexican Greywolf, Pups, Born and Capitivity, and helped carry them in a
1:03.6	backpack to a new family in the wild. But before then, now that the story is
1:07.9	finally in print, we're re-releasing our interview with Katie. Here's Katie
1:12.6	Urlinski.
1:16.3	What are you doing, Katie?
1:18.0	Oh, I'm just heading over to this other rock to get the clearest shot of this
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